Outside program for concave/convex/arc text

I have several projects i’m working on that involve concave/convex text. I’ve had no luck with the easel app getting it to the measurements I want, nor have I had luck on AutoCAD…any other recommendations ?

Got a pic of an example? Text along a curve, filling a shape or something 3D?

text along a curve…here are 2 examples.[https://imgur.com/8DvhqxE](https://imgur.com/8DvhqxE)