I went ahead and added a layer of bottle to my mount and the cut has improved! Still not perfect, but better than before. The cut is still slightly out of square, which is causing the ridges. The router is still square in the mount, so I’m lead to believe that there is still a bit of flex in the mount while cutting. The flex is in all directions so I doubt adding the X-gantry stiffening mod is going to change this much (I do plan to do this in the future).
Mine just came yesterday… I’ve replaced the smaller spindle mount with the Dewalt 611 mount and I’ll be wrapping with aluminum and inserting the Makita today. The Elaire collet is in the mail and hopefully will show up next week.
You may laugh at this but until I can get a sleeve of 1.5 to 2mm aluminum, I am using an apple sauce can, a tuna can, and some of the disposable baking pan aluminum. I cut each to the same size and wrapped the Makita in them and then slipped all of it into the 611 mount. It did the trick though and the surface that I just finished milling is just as smooth or smoother than before.
Sorry I didn’t get back to you on this sooner, but now that I have gotten some good use out of the Makita I can tell you that this thing is great. It barely gets warm. The projects I run are usually no longer then 30 minutes at a time, but I’ll generally run a couple. Even then on a 30 minute cut with the stock spindle I could barely touch the mount where the Makita is maybe slightly warm (almost can’t tell if there is a temperature change).
I haven’t used the DeWalt so it’s kind of hard for me to have an unbiased opinion. Lots of people love the DeWalt and it works great, although through the research I did the Makita seems to be the better router, only slightly, but still here are a few points in favor of the Makita
Can be less expensive (usually about the same)
Brushes are easily serviceable from the outside (no need to disassemble the router)
The head of the router is smaller, which causes less interefence with the Z-carrage (and issue for some).
I read somewhere that the bearing system is better, not sure about how valid of a point that is though.
Better speed range (as you mentioned)
It’s not yellow (more of a personal preference)
Please someone correct me if I am (I probably am), but those are the few things I found out. Also I’m a fan of Makita products so that was another factor for me.
At the end of the day, either one will be great, good luck deciding!
I am a router junky. I am almost embarrassed stating how many routers/trimmers/rotary tools that I own. But I do not own the Makita. I have five of the 611s already. Three are purposed for a specific task and the other two are for general use, one with the plunge base and one with the standard base. I also have multiples of the Colt.
My biggest concern is which model works best for this purpose. And what I mean by “works best” is which one gives the most accurate cut when mounted on the X carve. Bearings and Run out makes up a Huge factor. Speed control can be controlled one way or another with some modifications to the system, so it is not a major factor for me. I haven’t worn any brushes out yet on any of my 611s so I haven’t even looked at the difficulty at changing them, but as long as they are serviceable, then I can manage as long as they don’t keep burning out, but that probably signifies a different problem elsewhere. I don’t seem to have a problem with clearance of the z axis as long as my router is turned a certain direction.
It would be nice to have a side by side comparison of the bearings and the runout of both machines. This would definitely make up my mind.
I can see advantages and disadvantages for a heavier or a lighter spindle, either way. As Long as the Z axis (and X&Y) can handle the load without deflection, the heavier spindle could be the better choice.
I do have to admit that I like the LEDs on the 611, but that is not a deciding factor. I could always add better LEDs to the dust shoe.
Thank you for taking the time to post the list. I am still leaning toward the 611, mainly bc I already have five of them and I am familiar with them. To each their own though. Thanks again.
Thanks, Rusty. I’m thinking about getting the 611 mount and 3d printing a shim for the Makita. Heat would definitely be a factor with plastic. I haven’t used my stock spindle yet, so I have a little time before I have to decide which say to go. Hopefully, I got one of the better ones, but my X-carve order was fulfilled right in the middle of the problem time.
No problem! Even if you do have one of the better stock spindles I’d still suggest using the Makita. When I was using my stock I was cutting at about .03" DOC and 65ipm in MDF. Now with the Makita I’m cutting at about .05 - .1" DOC (I’m having some rigidity issue that prohibit deeper cuts) and 110ipm and my cut finish is much nicer!