What upgrades would you added during initial build

I am going to start my initial set up this weekend, I am curious what you would do from the beginning if you could do it again.

I was thinking about the stiffening upgrade since I have the dewalt router upgrade and I am worried about sagging.

Any other ideas would be great. strong text

  • Search the forum on how to adjust stepper motor current/voltage immediately you get the thing working and before you begin cutting)
  • If you have them, set up your homing switches correctly (the instructions cover this, search the forum, or post a question here)
  • Learn the difference between “Homing Switches” and “Limit Switches”
  • Set up ‘soft limits’ for your machine (Search the forum, however @LarryM certainly helped me out with this, so I assume he’ll be similarly generous with you, or post me another question)
  • Consider setting up “hard limit” switches (again, search the forum first, @BrianSaban was selling a card he’d made for this)
  • I’d also forgo the original 24V spindle and go straight to the DeWalt router

Lastly, I’d have taken advantage far earlier of the amazing people in this forum who are willing to share their knowledge and experience. Searching the forum here would have saved me no end of anguish…

Have fun, you’ll love it.

  1. Reinforcing the X-Axis is a worthy addition. Many of us on the list have added a plate between the two makerslides on X… I had one machined to the correct thickness. It makes a world of difference.

  2. You don’t mention what size of X-carve you have but if its 1000 x 1000mm, consider adding mid-span supports as well.

There are others with lesser payback you could consider but I think there are my top two.

-John

I would say most important upgrade and the first thing you should add before even starting out is an E-Stop button. There are many options to add once you get your feet wet, but when it comes to cncing an E-stop is by far the most important.

Brian

I upgraded to a CNC Shield, Nema 23 motors and a custom plate with a second bearing for the bottom of the ACME Screw.

I would drill out the endplate holes in the X-Axis (the ones that hold the Y-Axis motors).

From the factory they don’t leave any tolerance for adjusting towards-away tilt in the spindle, so it’s impossible to square the spindle if those holes aren’t perfect (which they aren’t).

Here’s my list. I have a 1000 x 1000 X-carve and carve hardwoods; may attempt some composites / Corian in the future. [The X-carve is my first foray into the CNC world.] Some of these are done, others are waiting until after the holidays (busy carving!):

  • DeWalt 611 router, also get a 1/8" Elaire collet for it. I ran some sjow wire through the drag chain and rewired the router, but you may not want to go that far. Debating whether to wire it to a relay and turn it on / off via gcode, or simply wire it to a light switch and turn it on / off manually. Since I carve wood, I haven’t had the need to mess with the spindle speed much; I typically set it at 2 or 3 on the DeWalt speed control and don’t require a better solution (like the Super-Pid) for controlling spindle speed.

  • Homing and limit switches; lots of great info here on the forum (thanks all!) for getting them working. Upgrading the stepper motor and homing switch wiring to shielded cable will help here.

  • While you are wiring the machine, run an extra shielded cable through the drag chain for a probe.

  • Stiffen the X axis; I am planning on using a 3/16" aluminum spacer between the makerslides.

  • Y axis stiffening; I am using simple plywood dust boards along the Y makerslides, but I wish I was smart enough to make them a little taller so the extend beyond the top of the makerslides to keep the dust out of the rollers!

  • Dust collection is a must! I am still exploring solutions here. I have a 3HP Oneida system in my shop with a 6" drop close to the X-carve. There are lots of great solutions on the forum using locline and smaller PVC piping but I’m concerned about getting enough air flow to the bit. The kentcnc dust boot is nice (pricey!), but I’d prefer an adjustable-height solution that is fixed to the carriage. I am thinking about some sort of dual 2 1/2" duct solution, possibly using the larger locline or large shop vac hose.

  • EStop / Pause / Resume / Hard Reset buttons. I have found that a Hard Reset button would be particularly useful. I haven’t found the time to wire all these up and am willing to spend the $ on the complete X-controller solution (hope it is released soon!). I agree that EStop is very important; for now I have everything plugged in to a switched surge protector that I can power off easily.

The one thing that I wish I had done is to spend more time on the wiring. By the time I got to that step I was so anxious to see the machine work that I rushed through the wiring. That resulted in many hours spent later trying to debug electrical issues.

Installing high quality four wire connectors on each motor would have saved me a lot of time and effort later.

Tom, where did you get the lower bearing parts?

They came with my “xyz-carve” kit from a supplier over here in Australia. Shipping costs were keeping me from owning an x-carve until I discovered a local source. It’s not technically an x-carve but it is based on the design.

I don’t know if I can name the company as they are an inventables competitor. I’m sure you can use google.

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I ordered a second Z motor mount with a bearing. The part that f the motor mount that the Z stepper motor mounts to can be cut offmore used to attach other hardware to. This plate can be mounted to the bottom of the Z axis the same way that the top plate is mounted.

A longer acme rod will be needed and the bottom of it will need to be machined to fit the bearing.

I plan to remove the stock bolts that are holding the bearing in place on the Z motor mount. I will install a longer bolt from the top and trap the bearing with a nut. This will allow the bolts to protrude out the bottom. When the Delrin Nut comes up on the axis, these boots will act as a Stop. This will keep the z carriage from crushing the limit switch

I have not performed this upgrade yet but will post photos when I have.

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I’m kinda partial :slight_smile: but this is my favorite upgrade! (2 instock) Ultimate X-carve Limit Switch Shield

Brian

Nothing. Build it. Use it, Then decide what makes sense for you and your application.

Agreed, build it and get it going, then worry about upgrades.
It’s easier to sort out any issues if you don’t have to factor in any changes from standard you have made.
It makes providing assistance easier as well if everything is standard.

I would agree, but would get the E-Stop from day one

A mod sometimes over looked is stabilization of y axis. I found out this week while doing a project. I guess most use small bits and it is not much of a problem but when i started running .5-.75 inch router bits as the carriage starts a cut from right to left the y axis rails would flex causing chatter after adding l brackets to the middle of the y axis rails there are no issues. Oh by the way dewalt is the way to go. To make a long story short i had a .5inX1.5in router bit cut a slope into a .75in piece of wood into the table and just shy of cutting all the way through to the point the z was off the rail and the collet was buried and cutting wood at 60ipm and the dewalt never even bogged down true test to dewalt power lol.

I would normally agree, but the X-axis stiffening mod is much easier to do if you perform it before you assemble the gantry.

X axis had already been done. Bigger cuts and higher travel speeds and when the y axis issue showed. Just like to keep everything as rigid as possible.

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Well, my intent was largely to point out that while most mods can be easily added after initial build, the X-axis mod (at least the one with the solid core) largely requires disassembly of the X-axis, the corresponding wiring, etc. Makes it a lot easier to stiffen the X before you assemble the rest of the unit. The Y-stiffeners you can add as needed. :smile:

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Here is how I upgraded my Y axis. My y rails are 1800mm so I wanted to make them as ridgid as possible. This makes them rock solid.

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