Corners/edges have extra material cut out

Some of the edges on my project have extra deep corners cut out of them, even though this doesn’t exist in the Easel render. In the attached image, the problem is in the top right of the center rectangle. These should just be simple 90 degree angles.

Anyone else have this problem?

This is using a 1/8" downcut bit. Sometimes it’s less pronounced than this image, but it’s happening all over the place.

Any advice to avoid this?

Thanks.

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could you share the easel file or the svg file please

those look like dog bone fillets to me it is weird that they are different length but I would like to verify the file first

Easel project:

SVG file attached.

Thanks!
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so weird another person on the forum is having the same issue with there carve

its doing the same thing I wonder if there is not something wrong with easel

does anyone know a part of Inventables staff that specializes in easel on the forum?

Anyone else have any ideas here?

Has this happened to anyone before?

Thanks yall

the belts where good?

yeah I think this problem has happened to lots of people before but usually it was the belts or something loose on the machine?

but if thats not the case it is something different

have you tried to send you gcode through something like universal gcode sender to take easel completely out of the equation?

It’s not the Gcode, it’s the machine.

You are losing steps or your bit isn’t square to the board. Look at the bottom of the pocket…

WorkinWoods: The belts feels fine. I haven’t tried anything else besides easel but may have to look into that.

JustinBusby: What do you mean “losing steps”?
And, is the “pocket” the bottom/floor of the carve? It’s not entirely flat but the 1/8" downcut bit (from inventables) isn’t flat either, there’s a slight angle to it which I thought would lead to the grooves at the bottom.

I included the entire carve if that helps diagnose anything.

Thanks folks.

@AlexC1

is your router exactly 90 deg to your spoilboard?

and have you surfaced your spoilboard?

Yes the bottom of the carve and it should be flat unless your using a ball end or some other end. Most bits are flat bits.

Grooves indicate mechanical issues most of the time.

And losing steps means that when you should move 3”, it tries but due to a mechanical problem, the motor only goes 2.9” or whatever. This could cause what you’re seeing with the corners.

If the router return to the exact same spot as prior to the carve it has not lost any steps. Your images do not show sign of lost steps to me.

Try a quick test carve, carving a “l” as in Google like you did in the image above.
Do one deep and another “l” shallow,
For instance one 3/4" deep and the other 1/8" deep. Compare the two entry/exit area of each “l”
Please post a pic :wink:

Thanks Haldor. The pronounced corners are very apparent. It’s always worst in the top-right corner, but the bottom left is problematic too. Here’s what I’ve got.

2 Easel projects (the two lines you requested, and a square):
http://easel.inventables.com/projects/6TuP_5cv945utPiPll0v9g
http://easel.inventables.com/projects/KxS7Jrqf6grVkzr7CSrx6g

Video of the corner cut on the square - you can see it goes to far into the top right.
https://gifs.com/gif/x-carve-corners-rR0GKB

Photos.

Or way too much bit sticking out of the router and it is deflecting.

Could be multiple things all at once! Both loose Y belt and bit deflection are plausible.

I still think its not square, hence the seemingly pronounced grooving.

It is difficult see see exactly but the deeper cuts do show sign of being “more off” at the entry/exit point.
=> Z may be slightly tilted

The long stick-out of the spindle is also a factor I am sure, seen in the wavy lengthwise carve/edge.
How much do the tip of the end mill deflect if you add a 2lbs force to it?

The tip of the bit looks burned. If dulled it will deflect more.

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Hi all,

Just wanted to say thank you for the replies and suggestions. Here’s what we discovered.

  • Our unit is a Gen 1 device and had a lot of wear and tear
  • The top right wheel on the Z axis motor assembly was missing a nut on the back(!) and the wheel was loose. The nut just fell off at some point. New hardware was installed
  • All the belts were tight, but the left belt motor pinion screw was loose and didn’t grip the belt well. There was a lot of play in it
  • We got a new Inventables bit to replace the old one, which probably helped too

It’s not necessarily perfect, but it’s working much better now! Getting there.

Thanks!

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