Ultimate Camera Slider Build!

Hey guys Figured since this is my latest big project that I would share the progress here and also hopefully get some advice/feedback from you guys! I’ve had this build on my mind for a few months now. I actually came up with all the sketches when I was at the hospital for 8 days with my newborn daughter. Anyways, I plan on building a Camera Slider for my YouTube channel than I am working on, where I build knives. Allot of the work I do on a knife is tedious and boring so making time lapses would be great! Along with the really cool footage you can get using them. Anyways on to the build

I am still on the fence if I want to make this first one motorized or not. I have some ideas on how to implement the motor system but still have lots of brainstorming to do. I took my sketches hit up a friends house that had autocad and began the design. Luckily he was able to teach me a few things and I came up with something use able. I am going for lightweight and compact, so I bought 2 1000mm carbon fiber tubes! These things are super ridgid and very light! I’ve worked with carbon fiber before and always loved the look of it. I designed the two end plates in easel but I think I will modify them to reduce the weight of them and make them look a little neater. I am doing all my test pieces in MDF. I am thinking of doing the endpieces in aluminium but I am unsure if the xcarve can cut such thick material. The middle plate, that you see in the picture I plan on making carbon fiber, most likely 2-3mm thick. And the slider I plan to also make out of carbon fiber. I also picked up these grooved wheels from ebay that seem to fit the pipe fairly decent.

Problems so far:

  • The two endplates I made out of MDF where supposed to be a snug fit but are fairly loose. I am not sure If I should try to get a better fit or if I should implement a hole with a threaded knob that could push down to tighten them, the nice thing is, is that the endcaps I bought prevent the ends from being able to fall off, they can only slide forwards.

To do list:

Next up I plan on designing the slider platform where the ball mount and vwheels will mount to, I also have to mount the bottom plate, but I am petrified of putting holes in these carbon fiber tubes they where about 50$ each… I may see if I can find a copper tube that is the same od and id and use that first.

Questions I have:

What materials do you recommend I use for the endplates is aluminium an option? Or do I go with some sort of plastic?


UPDATE

Alright So upon working on the top slider, I found a potential flaw to my original design, Originally I was planning on having the wheels on the inside of the bars to keep the slider as slim as possible and figured it would look better mounted this way, having hidden wheels, Anyways the bars aren’t mounted far enough apart, so it leaves a just less than a 1/4" gap between the wheels. This isn’t much of an issue but I plan to implement a motorized pulley, this doesn’t leave much space for the belting and any belt clamps etc… Alternatively I could have the belt run along the top however I feel like that would just look ugly. So my next option is to mount the wheels on the outside of the rails. So to fix all of this I can either make the rails farther apart Making the entire thing wider. Or I can design the slider to have the wheels go on the outside of the rails leaving tons of room in the middle for the belts and anything else that has to be implemented. This only makes the slider wider. Thanks to the wheels being grooved I can slide the slider onto the rails and it will be able to stay in place, allowing me to also have the rail upside down to get even lower shots.

Here are some pictures for reference. Let me know what you guys think.

ANOTHER UPDATE
Well spent a few hours doing some measurements and adjusting the file to cut out the top slider. Had to cut it out twice as My dust boot got caught and I lost a whole ton of steps. Anyways for now I just kept the same design as the bottom plate and will adjust it later on when I get the ball head mount and other things sorted out. I was pretty worried about the fitment but my measurements seem to have been accurate, It slides right on, and to my surprise it stays on the bars even while upright with ought the bottom plate installed. As mentioned earlier I am petrified of drilling any holes in this carbon fiber so I opted to wait until I have everything else finished. I attached the vwheels (They are not V-Wheels but that’s what I am going to call them) to the slider using M8 Bolts. For the actual design I wanted to tap some threads in the bottom so that there isn’t any bolts or holes showing on top. This is an option If I opt for Aluminium but if I go with carbon fiber I will have to go with bolts since the carbon fiber will only be 2-3mm thick. If I do use bolts I plan on going with some black bolts like you see on the x carve. Anyways still lots more work to do, but in theory I have a working camera slider!

Next up:

Next I am going to go back to the end pieces and redesign them. I got to find a method to keep the end caps from slipping down and moving, so far My idea is to thread a hole on each side and have a threaded knob to push down onto the bar to lock them in place (hope you know what I mean) I also plan on buying a cheap ball head mount so that I can mount my camera and do more testing. I’ll also have to figure out a good way to mount this bottom piece. (Worst case I will have to buy another set of carbon fiber rails)

Really hoping I can turn this into a super cool camera slider that people would think was bought from a store! Please let me know what you think, any advice/ideas.

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Nice work! I’ve also debated doing something similar. Ill be watching this thread :slight_smile:

first thing that came to mind is some cheap HDPE cutting boards to make them from. Cheap, sturdy, and would contrast well with the black carbon fiber. PS also easy to work with and somewhat forgiving.

I’ve been working on a slider as well. I’m just using parts I have, so my rail is a 750mm wide makerslide. It’s heavy but obviously rigid.

I have seen a few YouTube slider tutorials that use tubes that end up being too flexy which introduces a bunch of wobble during camera travel. Hopefully the carbon fiber is rigid enough you don’t get a bunch of movement.

As far as materials, Delton or acetal machines really nicely and is a fantastic structural material for items just like this. It’s harder to source but is more rigid. Cutting boards would likely work really well though and may even damper vibrations slightly.

My previous experience with carbon fiber makes me feel like these tubes are pretty damn rigid. Actually most high end sliders all use carbon fiber tubes. Today I found a few problems with my original design so I will be posting a few options hoping the members here can help me out. Also I appreciate all the comments on what material to use. Definitely going to take a look at those materials. I want it to look store bought and also be rigid hence why I want to avoid using wood. I’m thinking the bottom plate should be strong enough using 2 to 3mm thick carbon fiber


UPDATE

Alright So upon working on the top slider, I found a potential flaw to my original design, Originally I was planning on having the wheels on the inside of the bars to keep the slider as slim as possible and figured it would look better mounted this way, having hidden wheels, Anyways the bars aren’t mounted far enough apart, so it leaves a just less than a 1/4" gap between the wheels. This isn’t much of an issue but I plan to implement a motorized pulley, this doesn’t leave much space for the belting and any belt clamps etc… Alternatively I could have the belt run along the top however I feel like that would just look ugly. So my next option is to mount the wheels on the outside of the rails. So to fix all of this I can either make the rails farther apart Making the entire thing wider. Or I can design the slider to have the wheels go on the outside of the rails leaving tons of room in the middle for the belts and anything else that has to be implemented. This only makes the slider wider. Thanks to the wheels being grooved I can slide the slider onto the rails and it will be able to stay in place, allowing me to also have the rail upside down to get even lower shots.

Here are some pictures for reference. Let me know what you guys think.

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ANOTHER UPDATE

Well spent a few hours doing some measurements and adjusting the file to cut out the top slider. Had to cut it out twice as My dust boot got caught and I lost a whole ton of steps. Anyways for now I just kept the same design as the bottom plate and will adjust it later on when I get the ball head mount and other things sorted out. I was pretty worried about the fitment but my measurements seem to have been accurate, It slides right on, and to my surprise it stays on the bars even while upright with ought the bottom plate installed. As mentioned earlier I am petrified of drilling any holes in this carbon fiber so I opted to wait until I have everything else finished. I attached the vwheels (They are not V-Wheels but that’s what I am going to call them) to the slider using M8 Bolts. For the actual design I wanted to tap some threads in the bottom so that there isn’t any bolts or holes showing on top. This is an option If I opt for Aluminium but if I go with carbon fiber I will have to go with bolts since the carbon fiber will only be 2-3mm thick. If I do use bolts I plan on going with some black bolts like you see on the x carve. Anyways still lots more work to do, but in theory I have a working camera slider!

Next up:

Next I am going to go back to the end pieces and redesign them. I got to find a method to keep the end caps from slipping down and moving, so far My idea is to thread a hole on each side and have a threaded knob to push down onto the bar to lock them in place (hope you know what I mean) I also plan on buying a cheap ball head mount so that I can mount my camera and do more testing. I’ll also have to figure out a good way to mount this bottom piece. (Worst case I will have to buy another set of carbon fiber rails)

Really hoping I can turn this into a super cool camera slider that people would think was bought from a store! Please let me know what you think, any advice/ideas.

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looks cool. How about making the ends triangles. So then you have the 2 rails like you have now at the bottom. Then at the top hole, you have a ACME lead screw with a Stepper motor on the end. Then on the camera holder you have an ACME nut extending up to the rod.
You could probably control it with an ApplePi or something like that.

Not quite sure what you mean by triangles. Wouldn’t that make the ends separated? My plan to motorized it is to have the middle cut out on the end that will seat the pulley and on the other end will be a stepper motor on top and will use a belt. I think the acme would be louder so it would affect audio when filming. As for the programming I think I’m gonna go with an arduino it seems like the best choice since I can just toss a stepper motor shield on it. I’ll have to post some of my drawing of what I am thinking

Took a look at the local dollar store for some black cutting boards. No luck! Still fumbling around looking at what materials to use. I realised that the downside to carbon fiber is that it is so thin that I don’t think I’d be able to thread the camera ball mount or the tripod mount. And a piece of 1/4 inch carbon fiber would put a big hole in my wallet. So I think I am down to aluminium or hdpe if I can source it somewhere. Any ideas on places to buy? Is milling material close to 1/4" doable? Any info would be great.

How about electrical conduit… it is cheap and you can get a decent size that wont flex for the distance you want to cover

I meant that the ends would just have a third bar across the top. the end pieces probably would not be actual triangles… maybe I can throw a sketch together to show what I am talking about

here is a quick sketchup I did of what I was talking about. its rough but you should get the idea

the box is the motor and connected to the ACME rod. the camera jig has a post coming up with an ACME nut to the rod

I mean’t for the top and bottom mount. The carbon fiber tubes are still perfectly suitable for what I need! Gonna stick with them as they are lightweight and look cool! I don’t need to thread anything into the tubes. I was thinking more of the actual camera slider and bottom mounts where I need to thread in inserts for the tripods and the ball head mount. I think I am going to stick with 1/4" material for those. The options so far is aluminium or HDPE if I can source any of it.

Also I get what you mean by the design now! Neat idea but I like the more compact Idea of just having the two rails.

What about some black or smoke acrylic? That might look nice with the carbon fiber rods.

Right now, I’m open to using anything my biggest problem is sourcing a place to buy it. So far I’ve found aluminium at a kind of decent price on ebay. If I do go with aluminium I’d likely anodize the pieces red.

For aluminum. I was lucky enough to find a local metal supply warehouse. And got good deals on the smaller scrap remnants. There is also a plastics warehouse located near me. (I seem to recall that custom automotive installers often use acrylic. A local one might have some scrap you could by.)

I know Phil found a good online source for aluminum for his waste board. But I don’t remember what it was (I checked the post and didn’t see the link but I know it is on the forum somewhere.)

Alright not to much progress has been made since I’ve been busy working on other things. But my first idea on how to hold the end pieces onto the bar seems to have worked! Other than the fact that putting threads into MDF doesn’t work, It still worked enough to show that the idea works. I forget what these are called but after adding them the rails are allot more balanced and stiffer. Not as much play as there was with ought them! Once the bottom support is added I bet this thing will be nice and strong. I still haven’t decided if I want to go with these thumb things or go with a hexed set screw like you see on the pulleys of the NEMA motors on the xcarve. Let me know what you guys think!

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