Not a project on the x carve but one for the x carve.
After managing to “find” a cone from a company across the road from my office i set about cutting it up. I had to buy the bucket which isn’t as stiff as i’d like. When i switch on the vacuum it can collapse the bucket. My plan is to cut some hoops out and glue them in to the bucket to try and stop it collapsing. All in all a total spend of £9.00 (aprox $15) i’m pleased.
Looks like a winner. I made a thein baffle with two 5 gallon buckets. I too had the issue with the bottom bucket trying to collapse when using a shop vac. I simply cut some 1 inch wide by 1/2 inch thick strips of wood long enough to go from top to bottom of the lower bucket and screwed them to the sides of the bucket from the inside. No more collapsing and it is nearly 100% efficient at capturing all the debris in the lower bucket.
I mill mostly aluminum when I make the Triquetra Touch Plates. When my lower bucket was 2/3 full of aluminum chips, my shop vac had less than a baby spoon full in it. Same holds true when I am carving with wood. I expect you should get the same performance with the cone separator. I would have gone that route if I could have found a suitable cone but am very happy with the thein baffle.
How often do you have to empty the 5 gallon buckets? I am going to soon be building a sound-proof dust collector system (as soon as I determine the resonant frequencies) and trying to determine what size container to use. The one shown below is the one I was settling on so far, but will go smaller if your results with 5 gallon is good.
It depends how much material you remove. I empty mine when I feel like it. I think it will be more often with the dewalt and 1/4" bits. Last time I dumped I had 1/4 of my 5 gallon bucket and 1 teaspoon in the vac.
This will obviously depend on what you are carving and how much of it. With that said, I have milling my Triquetra Touch Plates for several months now and emptied the bucket twice. Once just because I checked it and figured since I have it open, might as well empty it and the second time because it was about3 inches from the baffle.
When carving wood projects it will obviously fill much quicker, however, even with a fair amount of carving it fills slower than you might think. The air movement in there actually compress the wood dust and fibers so that they are actually packed in fairly well.
Should you go with the 16 gallon drum you linked to, it would be quite some time before you had to empty it even with heavy use. You could still use the top 5 gallon bucket for the thein baffle. Mine works amazingly well. I am uploading some pics here shortly.
Ask and ye shall receive: Just PLEASE don’t judge me on the appearance of my bucket dust collector. I needed something in a hurry and after I finished it I realized it was a Frankenstein. However it works so amazingly well I didn’t bother to rebuild it to make it pretty. Hell, it just sits outside the shop and nobody has ever seen it but me… and now the world!
Pictured below is my dust collections plumbing. I ran PVC pipe through the wall to my dust collector to abate the noise of the shop vac. The white strap holding the hose is just a strip of elastic. I loop the hose through the elastic to take the weight of the hose off the router/X axis.
Below shows everything connected and ready. all the plumbing that disconnects is just pressed together and held in place on it’s own. Everything else is either glued or screwed. The boards on the top of the bucket stiffen the lid and keep if from collapsing under vacuum load.
Now the bucket doesn’t collapse … the cone does. So external bracing for the cone is the next addition. I then need to get some PVC pipe and make some blast gates, pipe round my (very small) shop to my other tools.
After all that i suppose i should actually start to make stuff again.
[quote=“CharleyThomas, post:11, topic:26457”]I loop the hose through the elastic to take the weight of the hose off the router/X axis.
How well does the elastic work? I was going to use a spring for this purpose, but elastic might just be easier to set up.
I was going to use a bungee cord but didn’t have one handy. My wife gave me the elastic and asked if it might work. Much to my surprise it works very well. I have one end permanently attached and a simple spring clap holding the other to make the loop. I just move the shop vac hose through it until it connects to the dust shoe with little to no weight on the shoe.