New X-Carve vs. 2015 X-Carve

You are correct. That was one of the reasons we didn’t include the new stepper motors in the upgrade kit. You’d really need to include new wires and all new steppers.

Can you explain how you replaced the pulleys? Does the stainless patch screw go through the shaft?

If you offer each upgrade ala carte, then I’m not sure what value a partial upgrade kit would accomplish unless the upgrade kit would provide a reduced cost to the customer.

A full upgrade kit might catch those customers that don’t want to have to scrounge around to locate all the different upgrade options.

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Instead of that small M3 grub screw that comes with the pulley, I put in a larger M3 socket screw with a nylon patch (acts like loctite). That’s it.

Still stock gen 1 pulley, one screw sitting on the shaft flat. You can see the screw on the pulley in this picture.

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Did you keep the hole the same size?

Didn’t modify anything. Direct screw replacement.

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I did a similar thing in just using a longer set screw so that I could see it was still there.

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I did the same thing with longer screws…keeps them visible.

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Why?

Yea I looked at the picture. For me it was about being able to adjust it with the wrench easily.

Yea X-Controller can handle more but the torque in the stock steppers is the same on both.

This thread is about differences. I can start a new one about the next one.

Understood. Let me adjust the language.

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Check it out now @PhilJohnson

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I did the drag chain upgrade, eccentric spacers, z probe, and wide X axis upgrades (I had already bought the X-Controller when it was a preview), M3 Socket Head Screws with Nylon patch replaced all M3 grub screws. I had to drill a new hole in the left Y axis motor plate for the drag chain upgrade, but it went smoothly and I think the new drag chain design was worth the effort - the old setup kept sagging and getting caught by the X axis so I really had to watch it. I didn’t care about the new side board because I mount my X-Controller below.

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The remaining upgrade I feel the need to do is to stiffen the Y axis, there seems to be too much flex there when doing plunges. If Inventables came out with a kit of brackets and the appropriate screws/hardware I’d take the lazy way out and order that in a second.

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Do you mean this?

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Since we’re talking about upgrades… I would have liked to mount the dust boom arm in the back right instead of the front which would have meant the hole pattern in the bracket would be flipped vertically. I’d be happy if that bracket was available with no predrilled holes to make a custom job easy.

If you had Y plates that supported mounting that, probably.

The Y axis can sag over the 1m span so people brace it. It’s not a current feature of the Xcarve.

Using wide Makerslide for the Y axis is a possibility, but it would require fussing with lots of stuff (longer extrusions for the bed, different design for the Y end plates. I believe others have screwed plastic plates to the Y axis for dust gathering and stiffening. I think others have cobbled together brackets that fastened the Y extrusion to the bed extrusion or even the table the X-Carve was sitting on. Something like that. Connecting the Y axis to the table would be the stiffest, but then the X-Carve couldn’t be moved.

here is one idea
Here’s one I might like better

I’m guessing the thickness of the Y plates in the video could be tweaked so no trimming of the waste board is required, but I’d be OK with doing that.

I would cast a vote for the following as things that are helpful upgrades from the 2015 X-Carve.
-Wider Makerslide (night and day difference)
-Eccentric spacer kit. (Eccentric Spacers and longer bolts)
-Belt clips. (I have them, but am waiting for my zip ties to break before converting)
-Z-Probe (I made my own before this was an option, and haven’t actually used the new one, however a Z-Probe is definitely worth having.)

I designed my bench to fit the X-Carve and my controller lives underneath. The sideboard in the upgrade kit does not fit with my setup and the X-Controller lives under the bench where the G-Shield setup used to live. Having it as an option or removed completely would be nice to save on costs.

-The X-Controller is a nice upgrade, though for how I use my machine not entirely necessary. It is also less friendly to adding ‘mods’ like remote buttons or anything that’s not on the Phoenix connectors already. I had remote buttons for Reset/Feed Hold/Resume wired into my old controller and cannot reach these buttons or the E-Stop on the X-Controller

-The additional stepper motor cable that came with my upgrade kit was not long enough to be useful for me without splicing wires together. It would have worked if I had the X-Controller mounted to the sideboard, and was routed through the shorter drag chain of the current generation X-Carve.

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I just recently did some additional upgrades to my 2015 xcarve after doing a couple of upgrades when I bought it (Nema 23’s and Dewalt 611 and shortly after purchase bought the Kent CNC dust boot. It was before the Ineventables dust boot was available).

New Upgrades

  1. Wide X-Axis makerslide
  2. Eccentric spacers replaced all eccentric nuts
  3. M3 Socket Head Screws with Nylon patch replaced all M3 grub screws on the pulley’s
  4. Added L bracket supports to the Y Makerslides. Not sure if this helped at all or not.

Still considering a new Linear Z upgrade but not sure I really need it. I don’t do any work with aluminum.